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What is up with guys trying to haggle?

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What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby Dr Cycle on Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:46 am

I have seen too many recent posts from well respected providers complaining about guys trying to haggle a low price and/or avoid the screening process.

I have heard from a couple providers that there are guys who refuse to believe they need to pay more than 50 or 60 and get angry when denied a date.

And then there are the guys who ask for a free trial.

What is up with this crap? The ladies I have met on indys are skilled professionals who work to make sure I have a good time. They should be treated with respect and not hit with terms such as arrogant or gps. If you don't want to pay their rate move along.

I recently checked and you can get a good looking legal escort in Niagara Falls Canada for $200 US per hour but you have to get there and pay for lodging. They have a very clear fee schedule based upon time, incall/outcall, single/double, bachelor party. I also looked at the Nevada websites and there are no fee schedules with negotiation expected. You can expect for the lady to ask for $1000 and most will actually cost you 300-600 plus you have to get there.

So why are some guys on here pissing off the ladies?
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby MyVice365 on Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:15 am

Dr Cycle wrote:
So why are some guys on here pissing off the ladies?

I have a feeling that they do that everywhere they go!!!
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby RWhite on Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:27 am

Are u angry or venting or just looking for answers as to why ?
Providers that I know have posted rates and unposted rates.
I know for a FACT of green square providers who advertise 200 and 250, but the fee I pay is 70 and 100. I've texted newbies and asked rate ( wasn't posted). She replied with a number. I reply thank you but too high for me. She replied with a lower number. Is that considered haggling ? I didn't ask for a lower rate, she offered.
That happens every day and will continue to infinity.
Again, why does this activity concern you ?

For those who know ...... +1.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby Gabrielle on Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:32 am

RWhite wrote:Again, why does this activity concern you ?


Perhaps for a similar reason as to why you are bragging about paying 70 bucks, again. Do you want a cookie? :roll:
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby RWhite on Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:50 am

Come on, how is making a statement of fact bragging ? Mine was a real life example of what goes on daily.
Other guys on here and I talk and compare notes on rates. We all don't pay the same rate and you and everyone else knows it.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby chesty on Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:56 am

RWhite wrote:but the fee I pay is 70 and 100.1.

Bro...you’re gonna get kicked outta the Tall, Tan, Handsome and Rich club if you have to pay that much :shock:
I find that the Applebee’s 2 for 25 still works for me.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby almonius on Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:59 am

Indy's has gotten a flood of new members, both guys and gals from some of the more disreputable boards. On USASexGuide they guys routinely brag about how the talked lady down in price by playing "not sure I want to see you" until her withdrawal symptoms kicks in and she is desperate for a fix. I'd like to think that is the exception here and not the rule. Those users (both sexes) are going to have to go elsewhere or adapt to a significantly higher class provider.

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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby MsMoorhead on Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:13 am

Mr RWhite , I'm confused on why your still on indys ? Don't you have almost a 100 ladies #'s from SA ?
What's the need to continually take advantage of the ones who are falling in hard times ?

I really wish these Ladies would understand once you go that low on donations , its almost impossible to go back to your regular rates.
If we all just kept our donation rate the same and didn't budge they would STOP haggling. It might take a little bit but it would stop.
At this time I'm only comfortable with seeing Blue and Green Square gents . Unless we've met already .
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby Alli Taylor on Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:37 am

If you are only willing to pay 70/100 for a ladies time I’m really surprised you haven’t got ripped off, assaulted, catfished, etc. and telling a lady she is “too much” is straight up rude. Indy’s is more quality ladies. Come on now

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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby old44 on Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:38 am

Now you tell me! All these years I’ve been doing it wrong. If the ladies posted rate is too much for me, I don’t insult her by saying it’s too much. I just say no thanks. If she replies with a lower rate, I’m still moving on because if I accepted the lower rate I would feel like I wasn’t getting her best effort. It also tells me she’s not professional enough to deliver the quality I seek. I believe it is insulting and demeaning to both parties to reduce this intimate exchange to that level. #hopelessly old school.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby tannana on Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:24 am

A ton of you would starve anywhere but the US and must die in sheer terror buying a car.

If you want to haggle, do so. If you don’t, don’t.

A lady should accept not a penny less than she thinks she is worth. A dude should pay not a penny more. This is how price discovery works, particularly in what is now going to be (again) an opaque market.

What is completely pointless is bitching about it. It is going to happen.

On the suggestion that guys are taking advantage of addicts who need a fix? Both sides of that transaction are getting exactly what they deserve.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby waitingintime on Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:05 am

Gabrielle wrote:
RWhite wrote:Again, why does this activity concern you ?


Perhaps for a similar reason as to why you are bragging about paying 70 bucks, again. Do you want a cookie? :roll:



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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby Fun Guy on Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:47 am

I've never haggled. If someone excepts being haggled that is their decision.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby MyVice365 on Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:59 am

I don't usually haggle, but I also don't let providers " pegg " me either. What I'm into, or your into is regardless. Haggling is obviously part of their thing. Its up to the providers to say yes, or no.
I can see how it would get pretty anoiying.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby Binder123 on Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:31 am

Lol you guys are too funny. Out of all the providers in erie which one provides a true upscale atmosphere? What provider doesn't have an incall at either the cheapest hotel possible or there average to below average house?
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby tannana on Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:05 pm

old44 wrote:Now you tell me! All these years I’ve been doing it wrong. If the ladies posted rate is too much for me, I don’t insult her by saying it’s too much. I just say no thanks. If she replies with a lower rate, I’m still moving on because if I accepted the lower rate I would feel like I wasn’t getting her best effort. It also tells me she’s not professional enough to deliver the quality I seek. I believe it is insulting and demeaning to both parties to reduce this intimate exchange to that level. #hopelessly old school.


Nothing ventured. Nothing gained. Let's say for a second that your hypothetical professional is getting no offers at 250/hr (none) and someone offers 200. Is she unprofessional for believing that 200 > 0, or don't you count cash flow accounting and the ability to recognize opportunity cost as "professional?"

You'd lose your mind in any country but the US on this score. Seriously. You are hopelessly American, not hopelessly old school. Take yourself a trip to the quaint canals of Amsterdam: where you've been able (and expected) to negotiate the particulars of what is going to happen next for hundreds of years. If you don't, you'll be taken for a ride and it's not the one you were looking for.

This is, at it's heart, a business. If people on both sides of the transaction would simply act that way, the quality of the hobby would skyrocket and this stupid conversation about "haggling" would never rear it's ugly head again. Matching buyers and sellers in a market economy demands a functioning market. That involves price discovery. Why people (And, particularly guys, like the OP) get their underwear in a twist about this is a fucking mystery.....
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby RWhite on Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:27 pm

You all missed what I said. The girls who charge 200 and 250 are Indys girls. Those EXACT same Indys girls see me for 70 and 100.
Now would ALL of you who relished in bashing me please post what you think of your Indys providers who are doing this ?

Perhaps you all may be able to respond more on topic if you READ what I said.
INDYS providers who charge 200 and 250 only charge me 70 and 100.

The other thing I said was when a new Indys girl posts an ad without publishing her rate, I inquire. If what she tells me is higher than I expect, I thank her, decline and move on. It's then SHE who offers a lower rate.

This stuff happens every day and you all know it. I talked to an Indys guy a week ago. We were comparing notes on Greek fees from an INDYS provider. What we discovered was that she quoted each of us a different rate ....... different by 100 dollars.
Everything Ive said in my responses were specific to Indys providers or hobbiests, and it's always good to see how many members NOT IN ERIE, comment.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby Fun Guy on Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:16 pm

Ok and gee wiz you pay $70-$100 for what others may pay $250.00 or more. So now others and me are some kind of loser for paying $250.00 for what you pay $70-$100.

I actually don't remember but feel I've paid $250.00 an hour 99.9% every time one time maybe $225.00. What I found, some wasn't any good no matter what cost and some was worth every bit of it.

I've been to places that it was obvious the girl put out effort to have their place clean and very nice. I've been to places with a mattress throwed on the floor with trash covering the floor. The latter was so bad I had her come to my vehicle.
I paid $250.00 for both girls.

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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby MyVice365 on Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:47 pm

RWhite wrote:You all missed what I said. The girls who charge 200 and 250 are Indys girls. Those EXACT same Indys girls see me for 70 and 100.
Now would ALL of you who relished in bashing me please post what you think of your Indys providers who are doing this ?

Perhaps you all may be able to respond more on topic if you READ what I said.
INDYS providers who charge 200 and 250 only charge me 70 and 100.

The other thing I said was when a new Indys girl posts an ad without publishing her rate, I inquire. If what she tells me is higher than I expect, I thank her, decline and move on. It's then SHE who offers a lower rate.

This stuff happens every day and you all know it. I talked to an Indys guy a week ago. We were comparing notes on Greek fees from an INDYS provider. What we discovered was that she quoted each of us a different rate ....... different by 100 dollars.
Everything Ive said in my responses were specific to Indys providers or hobbiests, and it's always good to see how many members NOT IN ERIE, comment.

Their aren't many girls in Erie that charge $250.
I have a feeling that you are not an honest person. You seem to brag allot. Who exactly are you trying to impress? :roll:
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby arda on Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:48 pm

Been on Indys since '06 and never once haggled. If the rate is too high I simply won't contact the provider, If it is reasonable I will make an effort to see her, Simple as that.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby sailmonk on Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:02 pm

Respect for others as well as yourself seems to be rare these days. Just remember, karma is real and always comes back to you.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby MorganOBM on Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:12 pm

I have zero problems with haggling since my official return. I’ve not had one client ask me for a lower rate. If someone would ask me for a lower rate we would not meet. I don’t feel high and mighty, but I really enjoy what I do and once you’ve asked me for a lower rate I’ve lost respect for you. As a single gal this is my dating life lol. One relationship at a time :)

I lowered my rate a while back from $300 to $250 and it wasn’t because I couldn’t get the $300. I noticed that at $250 I had much more return business and most of my clients see me 2-4 times per month depending on if I’m in town. I’m able to be more selective at a lower rate. It’s the sweet spot for me in Pgh on Indy’s where I feel safe. I get other clients from various sites at $400 hour but they aren’t as easily screened. Safety is my #1 concern.

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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby Josie Wales on Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:19 pm

MyVice365 wrote:
RWhite wrote:You all missed what I said. The girls who charge 200 and 250 are Indys girls. Those EXACT same Indys girls see me for 70 and 100.
Now would ALL of you who relished in bashing me please post what you think of your Indys providers who are doing this ?

Perhaps you all may be able to respond more on topic if you READ what I said.
INDYS providers who charge 200 and 250 only charge me 70 and 100.

The other thing I said was when a new Indys girl posts an ad without publishing her rate, I inquire. If what she tells me is higher than I expect, I thank her, decline and move on. It's then SHE who offers a lower rate.

This stuff happens every day and you all know it. I talked to an Indys guy a week ago. We were comparing notes on Greek fees from an INDYS provider. What we discovered was that she quoted each of us a different rate ....... different by 100 dollars.
Everything Ive said in my responses were specific to Indys providers or hobbiests, and it's always good to see how many members NOT IN ERIE, comment.

Their aren't many girls in Erie that charge $250.
I have a feeling that you are not an honest person. You seem to brag allot. Who exactly are you trying to impress? :roll:


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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby Big Stig on Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:37 pm

Over the past several years, I noticed less and less providers were posting rates in ads. So, I routinely contact new or even well established providers I know very little about to ask them their rates and availability if I like what i see or read in photos or descriptions. In my feeble mind, I have a maximum number I'm willing to spend (more than $50 lol). If they quote me a number that is more than what I'm thinking, I thank them and politely tell them its more than I was looking to spend. As far as I'm concerned, the conversation is over at that point because I never respond with a counter offer.

Some politely thank me back, some dont even respond and that's that. But many (way more than half) reply back either with a lower rate or asking me what I am looking to spend. So, I am the one being haggled the way I see it. Sometimes I will accept the lower rate, sometimes I wont. I've had some great experiences from providers who were open-minded enough to adjust their rate and some I've ended up seeing many times after.

If you dont want to haggle, then dont, you have total control over your rates. Just move on. But, dont look down your nose at a provider or client that does. Because it happens A LOT.
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Re: What is up with guys trying to haggle?

Postby Fun Guy on Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:57 pm

Fun Guy wrote:Ok and gee wiz you pay $70-$100 for what others may pay $250.00 or more. So now others and me are some kind of loser for paying $250.00 for what you pay $70-$100.

I actually don't remember but feel I've paid $250.00 an hour 99.9% every time one time maybe $225.00. What I found, some wasn't any good no matter what cost and some was worth every bit of it.

I've been to places that it was obvious the girl put out effort to have their place clean and very nice. I've been to places with a mattress throwed on the floor with trash covering the floor. The latter was so bad I had her come to my vehicle.
I paid $250.00 for both girls.

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